Comments on: Beirut Diaries: film projection http://www.tadamon.ca/post/4655 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:02:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: S http://www.tadamon.ca/post/4655/comment-page-1#comment-126314 S Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:52:50 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=4655#comment-126314 Hi J, i agree with some things you say. While there are many people in lebanon and the region who fought and are still fighting for a true independance from hegemony or for self autonomy (in all forms, writing, organising locally), these are not the fights that are being recognized or talked about in the news. Instead, in the news we only listen to the speeches made by the leaders of the political parties and religious leaders, and these people keep talking about the 'independance' of a country which borders we idn't even choose to delimit, and didn't even delimit ourselves! (and we know very well that the borders delimited by Britain and France weren't delimited randomly). But if you agree that the polticians are only being recycled, then it's a reason more to watch this film! It shows very well how at a time where there was potential for real change, when millions of people went down to the streets spontaneously and had a sense of **empowerment** that they hve not had for a long time (for exactly the reasons that you are mentioning), this potential got coopted again and as always by the poltiical parties, and everything was put to go under their agendas. The lady in the documentary expresses similar cyninism as you. The mistake here was that the people who refused that their movement be coopted by these recycled leaders gave up. and this is what helped with the polarisation of the situation... enjoy the film :) Hi J,

i agree with some things you say. While there are many people in lebanon and the region who fought and are still fighting for a true independance from hegemony or for self autonomy (in all forms, writing, organising locally), these are not the fights that are being recognized or talked about in the news. Instead, in the news we only listen to the speeches made by the leaders of the political parties and religious leaders, and these people keep talking about the ‘independance’ of a country which borders we idn’t even choose to delimit, and didn’t even delimit ourselves! (and we know very well that the borders delimited by Britain and France weren’t delimited randomly).

But if you agree that the polticians are only being recycled, then it’s a reason more to watch this film! It shows very well how at a time where there was potential for real change, when millions of people went down to the streets spontaneously and had a sense of **empowerment** that they hve not had for a long time (for exactly the reasons that you are mentioning), this potential got coopted again and as always by the poltiical parties, and everything was put to go under their agendas.

The lady in the documentary expresses similar cyninism as you.
The mistake here was that the people who refused that their movement be coopted by these recycled leaders gave up. and this is what helped with the polarisation of the situation…

enjoy the film :)

]]> By: J http://www.tadamon.ca/post/4655/comment-page-1#comment-126298 J Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:38:03 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=4655#comment-126298 As I do appreciate all the efforts gathered to make such documentary, but what's the point? Lebanon is a small country, we never fought for independence, independence was granted to us by big countries back in the days. We were created by the influence of the bigger ones. We never knew how to control a country and we never will. A plain example are our politicians. Those same people that are ruling us in 2009 are those the same people that fought against each other in a war that lasted years, and yet we manage to reelect them again? Really? If one thinks that Lebanon will become a better place, then you're wrong. The only way Lebanon will become a country is by eliminating (and by eliminating I mean killing) every single politician that took role in the civil war. I am disgusted by our brain-washed minds that tells us who to follow. It's one big game politicians use to play to let us either 1) leave the country, such as myself, or 2) keep ignoring and live to their conditions and their rules. It's a shame. As I do appreciate all the efforts gathered to make such documentary, but what’s the point?

Lebanon is a small country, we never fought for independence, independence was granted to us by big countries back in the days. We were created by the influence of the bigger ones. We never knew how to control a country and we never will.

A plain example are our politicians. Those same people that are ruling us in 2009 are those the same people that fought against each other in a war that lasted years, and yet we manage to reelect them again? Really? If one thinks that Lebanon will become a better place, then you’re wrong. The only way Lebanon will become a country is by eliminating (and by eliminating I mean killing) every single politician that took role in the civil war.

I am disgusted by our brain-washed minds that tells us who to follow. It’s one big game politicians use to play to let us either 1) leave the country, such as myself, or 2) keep ignoring and live to their conditions and their rules.

It’s a shame.

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