Comments on: Technion: Structures of Oppression http://www.tadamon.ca/post/8105 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:19:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Lonny Moses http://www.tadamon.ca/post/8105/comment-page-1#comment-271940 Lonny Moses Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:16:51 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=8105#comment-271940 Your arguments fall into two main categories. 1 - some of the (very many) things Technion does are in cooperation with companies that produce products used in the separation barrier. 2 - Technion discriminates against arab students. As far as 1 goes, Technion is the main scientific university in Israel. To criticize it for dealing with two companies in particular is fairly absurd. To ask another University to divest from it because of two of its relationships is even more so. Why not disengage from Concordia and McGill for dealing with the Technion? Or are you willing to overlook these institutions' transgressions because you enjoy going to a University that works with academic and other institutions around the world? Seems to me you should stop going to University altogether... As for 2, you accuse the Technion of discrimination, but then instead of providing details, you go into a diatribe against the Israeli education system as a whole, citing no actual evidence or statistics other than the Technion. While the Israeli education system is in bad shape, it deserves its own attention. And please remember that it fails Jewish and non-Jewish students alike. Try going to a city like Netanya and telling Jewish parents that their children are robbing Arabs of a good education. Your other points are generally about preferential treatment for people in the Army. You claim that Palestinians are not conscripted into the army (I bet you'd really like that wouldn't you), but you don't mention that they are actually allowed to serve if they wish. Perhaps this raises some questions about why citizens in a country choose not to serve in one of the most basic institutions of its defense. I think that any person who wants their country to take full responsibility for them (including Jewish Israelis), ought to serve in the military if possible (especially when it is the norm of the society). All-in-all, your arguments are weak, backed up by little fact and based on a clear agenda of zealous attack against all institutions of Israeli society. When I read things like this, I enjoy reminding myself that the Technion will soon have a beautiful new campus in NYC. I encourage you to stay far away from it. Your arguments fall into two main categories.
1 – some of the (very many) things Technion does are in cooperation with companies that produce products used in the separation barrier.
2 – Technion discriminates against arab students.

As far as 1 goes, Technion is the main scientific university in Israel. To criticize it for dealing with two companies in particular is fairly absurd. To ask another University to divest from it because of two of its relationships is even more so. Why not disengage from Concordia and McGill for dealing with the Technion? Or are you willing to overlook these institutions’ transgressions because you enjoy going to a University that works with academic and other institutions around the world? Seems to me you should stop going to University altogether…

As for 2, you accuse the Technion of discrimination, but then instead of providing details, you go into a diatribe against the Israeli education system as a whole, citing no actual evidence or statistics other than the Technion. While the Israeli education system is in bad shape, it deserves its own attention. And please remember that it fails Jewish and non-Jewish students alike. Try going to a city like Netanya and telling Jewish parents that their children are robbing Arabs of a good education.

Your other points are generally about preferential treatment for people in the Army. You claim that Palestinians are not conscripted into the army (I bet you’d really like that wouldn’t you), but you don’t mention that they are actually allowed to serve if they wish. Perhaps this raises some questions about why citizens in a country choose not to serve in one of the most basic institutions of its defense. I think that any person who wants their country to take full responsibility for them (including Jewish Israelis), ought to serve in the military if possible (especially when it is the norm of the society).

All-in-all, your arguments are weak, backed up by little fact and based on a clear agenda of zealous attack against all institutions of Israeli society.

When I read things like this, I enjoy reminding myself that the Technion will soon have a beautiful new campus in NYC. I encourage you to stay far away from it.

]]> By: Lauren Gold http://www.tadamon.ca/post/8105/comment-page-1#comment-241769 Lauren Gold Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:28:59 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=8105#comment-241769 That's a little prejudiced - why shouldn't an Arab oppose cutting off ties to the Technion, a university that does indeed contribute greatly to the international scientific community? That’s a little prejudiced – why shouldn’t an Arab oppose cutting off ties to the Technion, a university that does indeed contribute greatly to the international scientific community?

]]> By: OhWell http://www.tadamon.ca/post/8105/comment-page-1#comment-240218 OhWell Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:19:02 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=8105#comment-240218 Previous comment doesn't sound very likely to be coming from an Arab (Israeli or not). Previous comment doesn’t sound very likely to be coming from an Arab (Israeli or not).

]]> By: Sami http://www.tadamon.ca/post/8105/comment-page-1#comment-235189 Sami Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:40:31 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=8105#comment-235189 Cutting off your nose to spite your face? I am Arab and graduated from the Technion in 2007. Best investment I I ever made -- and if the government paid for most of it. Have you guys ever set foot in the place?! The Technion is very welcoming to Arabs and when my brothers and sisters get to have their own state in Palestine (hopefully very soon), graduates of the Technion and other topnotch Israeli universities will be there to help build its scientific and educational infrastructure. As it happens, this year's Nobel prize winner in Chemistry is from the Technion! This boycott business is very, very shortsighted. The only people who will be harmed by it is us! Cutting off your nose to spite your face? I am Arab and graduated from the Technion in 2007. Best investment I I ever made — and if the government paid for most of it. Have you guys ever set foot in the place?! The Technion is very welcoming to Arabs and when my brothers and sisters get to have their own state in Palestine (hopefully very soon), graduates of the Technion and other topnotch Israeli universities will be there to help build its scientific and educational infrastructure. As it happens, this year’s Nobel prize winner in Chemistry is from the Technion!

This boycott business is very, very shortsighted. The only people who will be harmed by it is us!

]]> By: elay http://www.tadamon.ca/post/8105/comment-page-1#comment-221099 elay Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:13:55 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=8105#comment-221099 the Technion is also the source of countless of engineering initiatives for the purposes of humane services, its technologies having been used in Japan Relief, in Turkey when aid was sent after the earthquake hit in '99, and others: beyond this, environmental engineering is at prime in Haifa - Israel being the world's leader in solar energy per capita thanks to innovations by Israeli engineers. think carefully before you boycott an educational institution, it has ramifications well beyond the scope of this conflict. the Technion is also the source of countless of engineering initiatives for the purposes of humane services, its technologies having been used in Japan Relief, in Turkey when aid was sent after the earthquake hit in ’99, and others: beyond this, environmental engineering is at prime in Haifa – Israel being the world’s leader in solar energy per capita thanks to innovations by Israeli engineers.

think carefully before you boycott an educational institution, it has ramifications well beyond the scope of this conflict.

]]> By: Guy Perrier http://www.tadamon.ca/post/8105/comment-page-1#comment-212583 Guy Perrier Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:02:37 +0000 http://www.tadamon.ca/?p=8105#comment-212583 Le lien sur le site web ne fonctionnant pas, pouvez-vous m'envoyer par mail le rapport sur le Technion ? Le lien sur le site web ne fonctionnant pas, pouvez-vous m’envoyer par mail le rapport sur le Technion ?

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